An Interview with Sheevaun Moran by Biddy Tarot

 

 

Biddy:

Beautiful. Well, welcome to today's special guest interview. As part of our community, I am so excited to introduce you to Sheevaun Moran, who is like an energy master. So welcome Sheevaun. I'm like super excited to have you here. How are you doing?

Sheevaun:

I'm awesome. Enjoying the energy, excited to share and just get everybody's hearts on fire. <Laugh>. Yeah,

Biddy:

Beautiful. And Sheevaun is just telling me she's in Mexico right now. She's writing her 18th book. That's right. 18Th. which is pretty amazing. And let me just give you a little bit of background around Sheevaun and then we'll just jump into our conversation for today. So Sheevaun is a world renowned healer, energetic arts master, author, entrepreneur, trainer and podcast host. She's like everything. She's also the founder of Energy Mastery and it's a worldwide certification program for energy medicine, energy healing, energy hygiene and soul connection. So for all of those today who are saying can't wait to hear more about energy, you're absolutely in the right place. And so Sheevaun has definitely worked from the ground up. She started with one-to-one healing sessions and then she's gone on to establish seven free healing clinics across the US and now she's teaching people around the world about energy mastery.

So I really love that about your story Sheevaun that you have just, you've come from where many, you know, healers come from, which is just starting ground, like ground roots with the one-to-one healings and then building it into something that has massive impact and now teaching others to do the same. So kudos to you. Now also, the really cool thing about Sheevaun is that she's the first to teach energy healing in colleges and also in Fortune 100 companies and with CEOs. And now she's using her energetic techniques and principles to grow and help innovate small businesses through her second business, which is energetic solutions. So Sheevaun's gonna be talking more about energetics and navigating the path from chaos to clarity. And as I said before we hit record, what I really invite you to do today is really listen deeply to Sheevaun.

There'll be things that really land specifically for you and also just listen through that filter and that lens of one, how can I bring this into my life generally, but two, how can I bring this into my taro practice, whether it's do I integrate this into my personal practice or how could I even use this with some of my clients? So with that, <laugh> big welcome to Sheevaun. It's so good to have you here. So let's just get a little bit, a little bit sort of back into your journey and just tell me a bit like what has really been your path and your journey with energy? What's been the thing that's really attracted you to this? Mm,

Sheevaun:

Yeah. So I was building a pharmaceutical company. I got sick, misdiagnosed, and nearly died. And I decided that I didn't believe in drugs, <laugh> while I'm building a pharmaceutical company. So that's a pretty cool thing. And I'm laying on the emergency room table and they said, lady, we have to inject you with this stuff or you're gonna die. And I thought, okay, I get it. I get the severity, I get the looks on your face. And so they gave me this really toxic cocktail of stuff to kill all of the stuff inside of me, which I had was called sepsis, which is blood poisoning, which is very lethal. And I decided there, while they're away making their cocktail, I'm thinking, okay, I was not left here on the planet to just go now. This is not the thing I'm here to do. So I'm gonna back up the story just another 18 months before that.

And the love of my life died a motorcycle accident. And so I'm laying on the table having this epiphany going, I'm building a pharmaceutical company. I don't believe in jug. I'm left here. Okay, okay, I'm gonna go home and heal myself. That was the only thing I could think about at the time. I'm gonna go home and heal myself. I don't even know what that freaking means. And that's exactly my verbatim thought. And I remember thinking, okay my friend was in the ER and I got him to come back and I said, so you're gonna take me home? And I said, oh, they're not gonna let you go home. I said, oh, I'm going home. <Laugh> people die here. I know a lot about how people die here. This is not happening. So I went home, I took the cocktail of stuff that they gave me and I decided that if I could build companies, which I'd helped for before that get built and sold, if I could build companies, I could truly heal myself.

Again, I didn't know what that meant. I had no basis for this. I'm actually a computer pro programmer, so I got the engineer brain on me. And so I decided that there was something that I was doing that was unique to get companies and businesses expanded and help them grow their market and, and really connect with their clients and their customers. And I just laid there for about two months and I just started to reverse engineering every single thing in my life and that I had been doing and thinking and shifting and all of the things I've been doing. And I thought, oh, I get it. I'm doing this thing and this is how I'm going to heal my body. And so I use those processes to heal my body. Now it's not just mind, I realized it was energy. I just didn't know it was energy.

I just thought it was a unique process. And and then I took a class about a year later and I thought, oh, I've been doing this all my life. Isn't this, doesn't everybody do this? Like, isn't this normal <laugh>? And so I, I've been doing it since I was three years old and I recall the time, the moment when my mom told me not to tell anybody what I was doing. And so I've been doing it a long time, I just didn't know it wasn't something everybody on the planet was already doing and exposed to and was an inherent ability in people. And so that's kind of where it all started.

Biddy:

Yeah, beautiful. And I think you'll actually find there's many folks in this room that can relate in terms of kind of like, I guess it's like the unexpected path to <laugh> energy and healing, which actually is really just the coming back to ourselves, isn't it? You know, we actually realized that sort of taken a path that maybe is quite different to who we are and we're coming

Sheevaun:

Forward. Yeah, I think when I was building the pharma company, I was bent on being an executive c e o of a pharma company. Well, I am as an executive, c e o of a pharma company, just not that kind of pharma.

Biddy:

I love it. Yes. And that's also really speaks to that kind of the spiral evolution that I think we all go through. So, you know, for me, I had 15 years in corporate and I sometimes had that feeling of like, am I just leaving this all behind? But really it all spirals back because here I am leaving a company and it's just happens to be in a different context. So yeah, I think that's really an inspirational story and so good that you are now doing this work. So I'd love to kind of dive into the topics around like energy and moving from that chaos to clarity. Before I do, I forgot though that I didn't do <laugh>, a little bit of housekeeping with you all, which is to say that we will have some live q and a near the end or make sure that we have some time for that. So as you are hearing Sheevaun talk as well, write down any questions that you might have. You can even put it into the chat. And what we'll do is we'll address those questions closer to the end as well. So keep those thinking cats on. But beautiful. So yeah, Sheevaun, let's talk a little bit about, you know, the, I guess the original state of chaos. You know, what does that really look like and what does that mean for folks?

Sheevaun:

Yeah, so we're taught how to think about the problem. We're taught to only solve from the problem. And when we energetically look at a problem, it goes like this and then it expands out and then it becomes this big giant hairball of a problem. And so we keep looking and looking and looking and looking and looking from the problem and into the problem. And I'll give some statistics of that. I found out actually from a client who was going through stage four prostate cancer, and he said, I think you're the one who's gonna turn this around. He was some famous Hollywood guy. And I was like, all right, I think I'm pretty good at it. Let's try. And he said, I wanna show you some science and I want to show you the science of this unique thing. He said, 90% of the men who get prostate cancer and actually die from prostate cancer die because they've had a needle injected into the prostate in order to find the problem.

And I was like, oh yeah, because they're looking at the problem and they're expanding the problem and they're making the problem big and they're making it expand to every part of their body. And he said, oh, I would've never gotten that from that piece of information. And so if you just take that science and you say, okay, so 90% of the population, or 90% of the time we're looking at the problem as if we're injecting more poop, I call it poop <laugh> into the problem. So that actually causes will call toxicity and toxicity then sits into our field and, and I say we live in a closed container, our energy, we're sitting inside of a closed container. Well, you're expanding expelling that poop into that closed container and there's no way that you can get out of that spiny, crappy, circular un you know, unconscious unsolvable stuff by continuing to look at the problem. So that's what chaos looks like. Imagine kind of a tornado that's around you that most of it's brown and gray, and those are your, those are the energies that you've been sitting in that are keeping you from sharing your gifts with the most authenticness of what somebody else needs to receive or receive.

Biddy:

Mm-Hmm. <Affirmative>. And I wonder too if this kind of feeds into like what you focus on grows, which is interesting cuz like the more that we focus on the problem, the more we're feeding that problem. Is that Yeah,

Sheevaun:

Yeah. So yeah, so you take the idea of the injection, you know, it's a, it's a needle and it's a doctor looking inside the needle to see if the thing is, you know, is tumorous or cancerous or whatever and how bad it is. And what they're doing is they're looking for the problem, right? They're looking for the cancer. And I said to, I said to my client, oh, we are not doing this. We are not going to do this. I'm gonna spend this to as many doctors as I can to talk about this because as soon as you start looking for it, you will find it. Thus they found 90% of cancer in those people that they were looking for the cancer. And so when we started to look at the science of when they didn't inject something to look for the cancer, those patients, those clients had the ability to release and solve and be, and get maybe to stage one or stage two and have a very, very, very long life.

My dad had prostate cancer and so he called me when he got diagnosed and I said, oh, all right, this is what we're gonna do. And I gave him a litany of things to take action on and they said, well you're, you know, he, he'll probably live, you know, 8, 4, 8 months maybe, maybe a little bit more, but that's about it. And I said about, yeah, I'm really good at this. We're not having that happen. He lived for over 15 years and so it is amazing. And so I taught him about how not to look at the problem and how to cleanse the energy. So how you deal with a problem is to look like beyond it. So the problem is here and you have to look up here, it's kind of like the airplane who flies at 60,000 feet in the air, it's kind of sacred air and you get there faster. Not all airplanes fly at 60,000 feet. They only do that whenever they're like super late <laugh>, right? And so they're able to get there faster because it's kind of sacred air and that's what we're doing when we're looking outside of the problem. Yeah, it's challenging.

Biddy:

I'm relating it to say with taro like reading taro for others and probably really any kind of like one-to-one healing session. And you probably like for our community, you probably notice those times when your client is in problem state versus maybe more towards solution state or how can I look over in that 60,000 feet view? Yeah. And it's just, yeah, it's just opening up a, a new layer of awareness for me personally around like how many times are we actually feeding that problem state when we're trying to dig in and what's the problem there and what's really going on? And yeah. You

Sheevaun:

Know, are we

Biddy:

Actually expanding the problem rather than moving towards a solution?

Sheevaun:

Yeah. So here are a couple words. You know, I'm, I hope I can just start giving stuff cuz that's okay. As if I haven't already. But <laugh> so one of the ways to do it, if you're looking, you know, I can see energy and all of those things, the seeing, the hearing, the, all of those things. So if you're looking at something, the question usually is, so what's wrong? And I like to identify the question is, well what if, and then I leave the blank. And what happens is usually they'll fill it in with something that you couldn't have ever got in their exact words and that that might be a good opportunity to use that little two words.

Biddy:

Yes, I love it. And so again, think of that in taro about how you could either rephrase a the overall question or you could integrate that into your tower spreads with your custom questions. It's moving away from like, what's, what's the problem? But the what if, what if you know, this was to happen. Another one, another question I came over this morning is like you know, even to ask yourself like why, why am I in such a state of flow? So like let's say you're like not in a state of flow, but the question you ask yourself is like, oh, why am I feeling so much flow in my life? And then you kind of journal in from there as well, which is interesting.

Sheevaun:

Yeah, I think, I think we forget to breathe when things are worried. So if you look at the word worry, the word worry is actually to worry something into existence. And so in the Greek in the Greek training, ancient Greek training, they had worry bees. They still don't have them and people don't know how to use them, but they would worry something into existence. Well, we've turned that word worry into something negative and bad when we're worrying the wrong thing into existence rather than worrying the right thing into existence. And so what if we say, I, you know, I'm not gonna worry in that old way. I'm gonna worry something into a good way and use breath so that what can happen is it, it gives expansion cause energy expands when you point toward it, right? And so everything about worrying is usually a negative. Well, let's create a mission, A movement here is like, well what if worrying is no longer a negative? Huh? What if it's really something u new and unique that you can bring into existence in a much more uplifting way through breath and worrying.

Biddy:

Yeah. Yeah. Beautiful. Yeah. So let's talk a little bit about that, kind of like the zooming out from the problem or lifting above the problem. What does that look like? What are some of the tools and techniques that you use to support others in that process?

Sheevaun:

Yeah, so somebody, somebody has anxiety about money or time or you know, whatever their kids or family or spouse, you know, I mean people <laugh> and I call 'em people Inc. People are people inc. And if we're sending our so say as a practitioner, you are sending something to them about a judgment or an idea belief. The idea for you is before you walk into that is to encourage yourself to or better phrase would be, I'm gonna sit in suspended disbelief while I'm doing this. And so really what you've done is you've set the container in a pretty new way and you're not feeding against their energy, you're not playing and it's not feeding back and forth. Does that make sense?

Biddy:

And it's funny actually because before we jumped on this call, we pulled a card together and it was this, the hanged man, which is what I'm really hearing right now. What you're saying is suspend belief, you know, how do we kinda turn this on its head? Yeah. As the practitioner, as the, the advisor, the coach and so on. And it's really interesting that you're saying to do that first internally, like as the the healer. Yeah. And then I assume that there's the next layer which, sorry, I'll let you jump into

Sheevaun:

Yes. So the next layer is you pretend you have a blank screen. So one of the things I came in with is I could be working with a husband and wife and I won't remember who the husband is. If I'm working with a wife, I won't know anything I am really good at. Like they don't exist, they're a complete foreign entity to me. Well, not everybody has that ability. So the way I've taught is to start with a blank screen, kind of like a blank television screen except it's white <laugh>. And so you can see that it's a blank screen and then whenever you get into what's coming toward you, what's getting asked of you you are not in that mirror reflection. You are just the observer in a whole new way rather than sitting above it and, you know, all those things that they tell you to do, just sit above it and watch and do all these things.

And it's like, yeah, that's nice. That doesn't always work, <laugh>. And so you use this screen, it's gonna help you get to your have more clarity for your person and for yourself as the person who's gonna help them get the transformation. Because really what's gonna happen is you are going to have your own data, information down, whatever you call them and you are going to have that much more clarity to help them find a solution when you turn something or you're feeling something or sensing up something or you're coaching somebody. Does that make sense?

Biddy:

Yeah, yeah. So really having that in your own internal space first.

Sheevaun:

Yeah, like I have people just do it with a white piece of paper and I'm like, hold that white piece of paper up. So it just becomes your visual cortex before you walk into doing anything.

Biddy:

Ah, interesting. Like actually physically having that white piece physically.

Sheevaun:

Yeah. Because we have gotten into particularly woo people. I mean, listen, I'm, I'm very woo and very nonw, but woo, people have gotten so into their ness and so good at it, they forget that the tangible assets that are around us are absolutely gonna make us that much better. And how much more accelerated than any, any others out there. So have that actual visual cortex of a piece of paper, look at it before you're ready to do something, it's gonna turn everything on its head. <Laugh>

Biddy:

Love it. And that's certainly something you can do in kind in really setting that sacred space, creating the intention, clearing the space, and then being ready to hold the session with that person. And then what about when you are in like in process with a client? What are some of the techniques or tools that you could share with us that would help move someone from chaos to clarity?

Sheevaun:

Yeah. So our biggest challenge as, as a practitioner, what I've seen is the biggest challenge as a practitioner is emitting our own thought process and patterns and emitting our own energy onto somebody on accident or intentional, it doesn't matter, it's just an aism. And we have to learn how to use language completely differently. So I say words have a secret energy to them and they create an opportunity to be an ally or an enemy. And oftentimes we're using the words as the enemy when we're presenting something to another person. And in order to be an ally, you actually have to, and I happen to be in a Spanish speaking country, you have to kind of think in the Spanish speaking way and you have to kind of go around it. And so like my little driver, none of the men would give us directions.

It was hilarious. And she says, ah, these, these Mexican, these Spanish speakers, they just wanna go around the thing. And I would like, see, that's exactly what I'm talking about. But for when you are looking and working with somebody, you want to go a little bit around it and you wanna kind of dance and the challenges you get more practice at this is you're gonna wanna go direct and you're gonna wanna be bold, you're gonna wanna be in somebody's face. And the challenge with that is they say, put more love in you. Put your left hand on your heart, put more love energy into it. This is from the Nepalese, right? Love, put your left hand on your heart and just start speaking whatever you're gonna speak and just kind of dance it around a little bit extra. So it would be like maybe gimme an example of somebody, I don't know, something.

Biddy:

Let's say someone moving through a relationship breakup. Cause I know many of our readers get that as types of questions. So how could you support that?

Sheevaun:

Yeah, that's a cool one. So generally they want the person that they've been been in a breakup with to come back to them. It's not about right <laugh>. Yeah, it's like everybody. Yeah. Pretty much. Or they wanted to find that next person. And so they're so caught in it and you have so much compassion and that's really cool. But what you're gonna have to do is you're gonna have to use your white screen again, right? Put your left hand on your heart and then you're gonna say, so what opportunity? And then say you've pulled a card or you have some information or you're gonna coach them through it is, so what do you think you need to learn from this? What, what pretend game can you play in order to come out on the other side a different person? What fun things will you be allowed to do?

What opportunity can you see happening from this? You know, this reminds me of a client, one of my early on clients actually. She came to me and she had tried to commit suicide nine times. Nine times. And she said, I heard about you and I think you're the one <laugh>. I was like, oh, okay. That, that's a lot to put on me, so I'm not gonna take that. But what's gonna happen is we're gonna take you through some processes. And her, her problem was that her husband was going to divorce her because she was committing suicide because he created affairs and, you know, it was just a tangled mess of chaos, right? And so I said, the first thing you have to walk around is you have to pretend that notice the words I'm putting in, in front of it's all the free words that are gonna help.

And those are words that have secret energies. Pretend that what if all of those words, like if you were to re-listen to this and catch those words and write those down, those are gonna be magic words for y'all. And she never committed suicide. She actually got back with a husband and he transformed into a whole new being. Because of all of these ways that we've worked with the energy. So that's you're gonna have to dance around the words and dance around the opportunity to ask them a question without asking them a question. Does that kind of make sense?

Biddy:

Yeah, absolutely. And that's something that we teach like through the reading practice and so on, is our role as readers is not so much to give all of the answers and tell what all the cards mean, but to open these spaces for our clients to discover the answers for themselves. And I think, you know, using words like the what if, pretend as if, you know, look as if act as if, be as if all of these types of things are really great opening questions that we can use with our comments to support them in reflecting on their part. Yeah. And you know, even like pulling cards, let me just, I'll just do this as an example. Oh, okay. Like, well even let's say if it was two of swords, which is about kind of feeling an a crossroads and not being able to make a decision, we'll act as if the blindfold has been released. What happens then?

Sheevaun:

Or, or here's another phrase is, so what are some cool ways this swords are going to be your ally, right? Yes. So for me in share seeing that card, it says, oh, use a samurai sword and cut that energetic connection so you can have some freedom and space in between so you can actually see. So use that sword and cut that. So it's kind of take that and play with it a little differently than you might ordinarily it, you know, just, that's how I see energy <laugh>. I

Biddy:

Love it. Let's play more cause I think this is good. Okay. What would, let's say we pulled the emperor. What, like what do you see? What are some questions that you might ask? Just out of the visual?

Sheevaun:

Hmm. Yeah, so it would be where where do you find yourself falling behind and not leading? I would say, and the other, the first thing that showed up with that, and here's the really fascinating thing. People who are looking for answers, they're very much in their pride and ego, very much in pride and ego. And so the emperor is like, so are you trying to control everything? Are you trying to like do it from your ego? Tell me how that's working. And then just, and notice, notice the tone and the up and the texture of the language. That's the energy of learning how to use the words. So it's going to elicit something new.

Biddy:

Yes. Cuz I hear curiosity in that, you know? Yeah. Reflection, not statements, not judgment, but more, again, it's that opening up of the energetic space to explore Yeah. And that, you know, yeah.

Sheevaun:

I like this game. <Laugh>. Yeah.

Biddy:

And like as ta readers like this, I truly believe, and as healers in general, this is where we have the most impact, is when we're actually opening up spaces when we try and tell, oh, the emperor means, you know, structure, authority, we're actually starting to close down that space energetically. Sure. And what we're really aiming to do is open that space. Let's just do one more cause

Sheevaun:

Okay, sure. <Laugh>, but

Biddy:

We're doing great. Oh, okay. Here we go. Three of sorts. What would be some opening questions?

Sheevaun:

Oh gosh, that would be so I don't know Tyree like you all do. So I just look at the picture and I say, oh, well that says there's some really interesting things going on with your heart. So what's happening with your heart? What's happening with the energy of your heart and what's happening with the stored energy that you have been getting a little nagging thing that nobody's talking about. And, and I would just, I would just leave that. So I wanna point out again, the way I phrased the question is the energy of the words. So it elicits an opportunity for you to become their, even more their ally than you ever would have before. And it's really amazing that we don't pay attention to words as our ally. We're just used to speaking them and just blah, blah, blah, that stuff out. And the energy behind a word is going to do what you want it to do when you want it to do.

So I'll use some of my students as an example. So we were talking about this spray before we started, you know, get things sprayed out, you know, it's, it's magic spray. And so I get on a plane and the first thing I do, I get my seat, I get my spray outta my bag and I spray it around and I tell them, so I'm gonna use my magic spray. Would you like some 99.9% of the time? They always say yes. Now my students are like, oh no, I never get anybody saying yes. Notice how my tone is like play and fun and wonderful and you're gonna have a magical experience because of it. And they're all in and they all become my allies and friends. And that's about the energy that you want to come from your heart, not from your head, and has to always come from here out your mouth.

There's an agent saying that says it's more important what comes out of your mouth than what goes into your mouth. It's more important what you say, more energy than what you say. Because I learned this from ladies in the south. Ladies in the south would be angry and mad at me and they would tell me off and they'd say, I cannot stand. I remember thinking, I think, I think I think just can't, I, I think they hate me, but I feel like I just have been loved all over. I'm so confused. And so it was the energy behind it with the words that were of hate. It was really fascinating. And so I actually learned that from them. Women of the South speaking like that, saying that, and you're thinking, I think I've just, I think I've been loved over, but I've been hated on, okay, it's all good. And then it really distorts your whole being and then you can do that for your clients in order to help them get a response.

Biddy:

Yeah. Beautiful. Yeah. So I'm really hearing like there's that energetic alignment, getting yourself into alignment definitely before and, and during using the words that open that curiosity and having the tone, which also flows really from the energy and having that intonation that is aligned with the words and the curiosity and so on. Yeah. I'm really curious about how do you know then when your client or the person you're working for with is at least on track towards clarity or has reached a point of clarity? What kind of signs do you see? What words do you hear? What, like what sort of shifts?

Sheevaun:

Yeah, so some of the cues are some of the cues where it's not where, where they're trying to resist. They'll go like this, they'll cross their arms, that's a classic one. Or they'll cross their legs or they'll look down and they'll try to look away and it's just like, oh, you, you're, you're on a, you're on a good trail. Or key one, and this is so small, they'll take a little breath that you won't notice. And this is something that you're gonna have to learn. This is what we teach in the school is, is to notice the unnoticeable, notice the things that don't make sense that are going to give the signal for a shift. Because 99% of the time people are like, nothing happened. No, that's not true. That's not real. That can't be, we all know it. Right? And so <laugh> in order for them, in order for you to catch them in it in a real way and say, Hmm, I love this one, use this everybody. Hmm, but you took a breath, what about that? And then to shut up, oh, it just elicits so much yummy stuff. And then by the time you are done, what you'll have found is so many new cool things will have shown up for you for them that they're just gonna wanna come and keep getting worked on getting worked with getting your help. Yeah. Mm.

Biddy:

And I think the key is the shut up part <laugh>, or maybe we might call it silence <laugh>.

Sheevaun:

It is, I know. I don't know how many people I've told just shut up. <Laugh> just shut up. I mean, I'll, I'll tell you a story of, of how I lost a deal when I, when I was in pharma, it's actually happened to be the largest pharmaceutical will come in the world. Now I lost that deal. I was so blessed out and I'm very grounded, but I was so blessed out. I'd just come from some massive retreat and I was holding onto the table with my hands and I overtalked and I could see myself over talking and the deal was already signed. All they had to do was hand the paper to the guy, but I overtalked and I lost the deal. And so that deal, 10 million, that deal cost me $10 million. Not me personally, but the company I was helping. But it cost me a lot. And so I missed out on that deal because I didn't shut up. So the key thing is just be quiet, more quiet, more magic <laugh>.

Biddy:

Yes. And it's those spaces in between that I think contain so much magic. And you know, this is, this is obviously more of the gift of when you're being able to read in person and you have more of that connection or even like online, but real time. And just opening up those spaces of silence and you know, letting them be silent too. You know. So oftentimes it's so uncomfortable like, oh, my client's not talking. Okay, now better to keep reading my cards or something. Fill the space, fill the space, but actually open the space. Open the space, right?

Sheevaun:

That's when you cut the cords and you take a breath and if you have to, and you can do it, it is just like, look at your white paper that's just sitting right there. You know what I mean? Really have your tools in front of you. And so what if somebody sees you looking at your white paper? Who cares? <Laugh>.

Biddy:

Yeah. Yeah, absolutely. And I think we'll go into questions very soon. So I know we've got about 20 minutes left. But I guess just what would be kind of one takeaway that you'd love to share with our community? Like as tarot practitioners and healers? What's an energy clearing alignment practice that they can bring into their own personal practice? Because like, things like self-care is critical, keeping your own energy aligned is critical. Have you got like one little takeaway

Sheevaun:

That you can share? Yeah, so think of the containers. So we're all inside of our bubbles, right? We're bubble, we're bubble bumping, right? And they're going off, you know, people who have shinier bubbles, you know, are gonna get polluted in their bubbles are gonna get polluted. So if you have gifts, abilities, et cetera you've actually been given the opportunity to clean up your bubble. So but you tend not to do it and you tend not to do it on a consistent and regular basis. But the key thing about you being as magical as you can be and as effective as you can be, is you have to clean up that bubble. So we teach that in the school. I think we've got a thing we're going to share, show you how to do it. But one of the most important pieces is if you are not doing something for yourself for at least 45 minutes every single day, you will get out of integrity with your abilities.

Just the truth. If you're not doing something before you go to sleep and you're sleeping on people's crap, because this is what I see a lot of practitioners do, they're sleeping on people's crap. If they're, if you are not doing something to solve that before you go to sleep, then what you end up with is you end up with not being able to purge and it becomes part of your cellular structure and your dna. And so the thing that supposedly solves that is sugar, but then it becomes its own, its own catalyst for something that's a downward spiral, which actually will get you to read improperly, which is interesting. And and then it will get you to want to put more physiological barriers between you and your client or your potential client. And so it's like, what can you do in the morning?

What can you do before you sleep? Cleanse the, I, one of the key facet things that, that I did for myself is I went, I'm at the ocean, right? There's a reason because of the salt water. Take a salt bath or a salt shower every day for 15 minutes. Just 15 minutes, okay? Shower, put it everywhere, the salt and the ions, the the salt will help remove some of that poopy energy. And if that's all you get before you go to bed, you will feel so much better. I have a dentist who sees a lot of people that I'm helping right now and he said, I've been sleeping like crap. I said, are you using my system? I mean, are you using the protocols? He's like, God no. And I said, and so how's your life with your wife? And he said, it's scrubs. I said, are you gonna take this off Asel shower? He says, yes, <laugh>.

Biddy:

That's the thing, isn't it? We often think like, oh these just a nice to have. But it is critical, like absolutely critical to be operating like in full integrity as a professional. And also with that longevity and sustainability, it's so critical to have these practices in place. It's not an nice Yeah.

Sheevaun:

And a lot of practitioners get very gray. I mean, I'm not gray. I'm very, very, very committed to what I'm here to do and be as bright and shiny as I can. Sorry if it's too shiny, but you know, it's good because then I can help more people and that's what you want is you want to be shiny so you can help more people.

Biddy:

Yeah, absolutely. And actually I think this will be a good time just to share the giveaway that you wanted to share with our community. And so it's the five essential energies for immediate success. And you can get it over at actually if Hillary may, if you pop it into the chat, but I'll read it out. So it's a number five essential energies.com and Sheevaun, do you wanted to speak a little bit to this resource that Yeah,

Sheevaun:

So I'm a little bit of an over giver, so if you're ever reading anything about me or anything I'm doing, I'm gonna overgive and this is one of those overgive and so it goes through five energies and it talks about the different energies in five parts of the realm. So your physical body, what to do about that mental body your spiritual self, et cetera, and what happens when you're not in integrity and then what to do about to get into integrity. And integrity could be clean up, poopyville, have a new epiphany really stick with the things that are going to get you closer to your goal. And so the, it's designed to get you closer to goal. It, there's a lot of data in there, there's a lot of information. Use it, use it. The reason it's there is for you to utilize it so that you can be a better healer, practitioner, coach you know, whoever you are of service and so that your consol soul can do what it's here to do. Yeah.

Biddy:

Yeah. Beautiful. Thank you so much for offering that to our community. Appreciate it. So you ready to do some q and a?

Sheevaun:

Sure, let's go for it.

Biddy:

Alright. Hillary may I'll hand over to you and you can field us with some of the questions that have come in.

Sure. So Michelle b has asked, what have you been doing automatically since you were three? The thing your mom told you not to tell anyone <laugh>.

Sheevaun:

Oh yeah. Then I could see and then I could fix anybody's problem. <Laugh>. I love that question. Yeah, I used to get corn backed into a corner when I was in high school and I was, I I remember this distinctly and I had to verify this with a friend recently from high school. And they would, all the kids would backed me into a corner and they'd just start interrogating me with questions about their life and what to do and how to handle things and how to handle their parents. And so I've been doing a long time <laugh>.

Biddy:

That's awesome. I love that. Thank you for sharing. Yeah. I also have asked how do you use worry beads properly?

Sheevaun:

How do you use worry beads properly? Don't use them <laugh>. I don't think you need to do that. I think that you really just need to take the idea of worry and how you, you've identified worry. So most people worry about time, money, energy, love, health, family, right? Mm-Hmm. <affirmative>, they don't worry about their spirituality. <Laugh>, I don't know why <laugh>, they worry about those kind of things and it's, take that and like the cards, like we drew that card in the beginning, turn it on its head is okay. So take that. I don't have enough time to, I love time, time loves me, let's play with time, you know, just be radically weird about it. And I love being weird about stuff because it allows play and curiosity to, and that energy to do more for you. So good question.

Biddy:

Yeah, we love being we so that's great. <Laugh>. So I, I have two members with their hands raised. Did we wanna give them the space to ask their questions live?

Sheevaun:

Oh, you asking me? Oh sure. Yeah, I guess, yeah.

Michelle:

Bridget, were you okay with that? You ready for a live? Yeah, yeah. Let's questions? Yeah. Okay, go ahead Michelle. Your, your first

Michelle:

Me, Michelle or the other Michelle? Yes.

Michelle:

Michelle Envy.

Michelle:

So I actually changed mine to say Michelle Lindie, so you would know,

Michelle:

Okay. Michelle Lind <laugh>.

Michelle:

I'm curious if there's a way, because we do a lot of email readings if there are key things we can pick up in wording from emails that would give us that same kind of clue as what you're talking about when you're face-to-face with somebody.

Sheevaun:

Oh God, I love this question. Thank you for asking this. So we use a system in my company called Trello. And the reason I use Trello is because it makes people let's back up. I met with this very famous speaker who said to me, I don't know what you're doing, but you need to keep doing it. And do you have a problem I can help you solve? And I was like, I dunno. And I said, everybody wants to text me. And so that was the problem that I presented him with and he said, well make them fax their question over to you. And I was like, oh my God, that sounds really strange, but you know what? I like it. And so what happens with words is people get really language lazy with how they type and what they say. And so, I don't know if you do this in email, but maybe, I'm sorry, I'm a tech person, so I'm gonna give you maybe a tech thing that might help, can help myself. So I would actually suggest that you get into an email maybe not even email. You give five key questions before they're able to ask their question. Because you have to get them to release their poopy bill before they're gonna ask the true question that they're trying to get at. Does that help you?

Michelle:

Yeah, it, it does. Thank you.

Sheevaun:

I wanna make sure, cause you asked Yeah, sorry. You asked me something about can you tell about what the words say? You can tell what the words say. And when people are typing and saying the words, they're actually going to not say the truth of what they're saying until they've revealed it at least three times. By the way,

Michelle:

That's even more helpful actually because I find at, at least for me and probably a lot of other people on this call, because we all do a lot of email readings that we might have to ask a lot of questions before we actually get to what the root of their real question is. Even if they've posed a question, it's not always the real question.

Sheevaun :

Right? And that's, that's true. And so it would be really, it would be really interesting, at least for me, the coder brain says, oh yeah, there's a way to totally get that because we have in our intake form <laugh> it's 10 pages. And by the time, by the time they've filled out the 10 pages, they're like, oh my God, I've just been transformed <laugh> <laugh>. And you know, by the time they get to me after the 10 pages I've got, I've got, I'm gonna get their question. So maybe it's more like finding those, you know, five, 10 questions before they even email you one, I don't know, systems geek here. Sorry. Yeah,

Michelle:

<Laugh>. Thank you.

Sheevaun:

You're welcome Virginia. And just like

Biddy:

That really speaks to the, like the, the value of the intake form. And that's something we also teach through the certification program and even with our practice readings, we do have a, a fairly light version of the intake. And I think what's interesting is what I heard you say, Sheevaun, like the feeling that the client almost feels transformed having just done the form, right? That's right. Cause that's where the value can actually be. You are actually doing a lot of the work not in session, but pre-session. That's right. So that once you're in session, now you're actually working with the juicy, like the real, the deep stuff, which is really sweet. That's right.

Sheevaun:

Yeah.

Biddy:

Awesome. Great question Michelle. Thank you.

Sheevaun:

Yeah, great. And our next question it comes from Anna. Anna, go ahead.

Michelle:

Hi, can you hear me?

Sheevaun :

Yes,

Michelle:

Yes. Sorry I don't have a partner. I'm working <laugh> kinda I have a, a tricky question. I'll try to explain. Do you have any tips for like when you have a client or even a friend when you know, people try, try to put like negative thinking on you, they're just trying to let's say the client is coming, right? And you try to ask like what, what's going on? And then they start saying something hateful about other people or they angry about someone, how you divert them like properly. Of course we can just say, I don't wanna talk about it, but it can be end of conversation, right? Or you just wanna like change the subject or change the direction. Is there any good tips?

Sheevaun:

Yeah, so one of the things I gave earlier was well let's back up. So what I would teach is put your hand on your heart and I would just say, Aw, I'm sorry, I'm sorry that's happening. And no matter what they're saying, you said something hate, you know about somebody saying something hateful about somebody else. And it's that whether you believe in your being that much empathetic, doesn't matter. I'm sorry, that's happening. And then you, and then you pause for a second and then you use that what if statement. Well, what if there's something, what, what if we could, what if it was, what if I, you know, what if it's gonna be a good magical thing? Cuz people like to dump their poo on other people For sure. Especially, you know, readers and healers and their, and all of the, it's just like, okay, great. At least at least this gives you a,

Biddy:

Oh Shani, if you just popped back on mute, I think you're just disconnected for a little time there.

Sheevaun:

Oh, I dunno. We go great. Ok. So use the what if statements in, in, here's what I would say to give you practical application, right? 10 problems that you've had clients come to you with. And then your response is what if you, what if it were, what if it could, what if? And just create new responses to retrain your brain about how to handle that when you're in front of somebody. Because the last thing you're gonna gonna remember is what this lady here said about using what if cuz you're just gonna default to your other stuff. So if you do 10 clients and you write out what they're gonna say and then you rewrite the what ifs, I think you're gonna integrate it. Hi,

Biddy:

I love it. Okay. And was that helpful? Thank you.

Michelle:

Yeah, no, the, this is a great thing. It is just quite often like I feel that like people are looking at you so you can support their like hateful conversation, right? And like, oh yeah, they are bad and something and when you try to kind of get off the subject, they get upset with you.

Sheevaun:

Oh well, but that's tone sweetie. So one of the things, and I am very classically known for saying this, I don't believe that way. I don't think that way. I don't play that way. I use all of those, those phrases very regularly. Oh, I don't play that way. I'm gonna look at it like this, wanna come along for the journey. It's a very different, I get that I'm a very different animal, but it keeps me happy and it actually helps them get a much bigger reward and result because of it.

Michelle:

Okay, yeah, no, that makes sense. That can actually make them think differently, right? To look at Yeah.

Sheevaun

Yeah, because you're not buying their crap. Yay.

Biddy:

And that's the man again, isn't it really? Let's spin things on their head.

Sheevaun:

Yeah,

Biddy:

Thank you. Yeah, Sheevaun, what I also really heard is you have that acknowledgement of where they're at and their compassion and then you quickly move off of that place and you say, I hear you, I see you and now let's move into a whole new different space where doesn't even exist. And

Sheevaun:

Yeah, that's,

Biddy:

So I think

Sheevaun:

That's really Yeah, absolutely.

Biddy:

You've got to be in your power as the healer, the the coach to feel really confident that I can hear you and I can see you and we're actually in a whole different reality. Let's go there now. Yeah. Like, that's really <inaudible>.

Sheevaun:

Yeah.

Biddy:

Yeah. Beautiful. we might, does anyone have any questions? I think let's, we, we have a couple more minutes for some more questions. I think this is a really valuable opportunity right now to chat with Sheevaun. Like I, I mean so far like I just have loved this conversation. I've personally picked up a lot from it and I know community members will have as well and what's beautiful is it is in so much resonance with what we practice as readers here at Bitty Taro and it's beautiful just having that kind of external outside perspective and new, like new energy, new information that actually integrates beautifully with how we read Taro here at bi Taro. So I really do appreciate that. Hillary may, do we have any other questions that have come through in the meantime?

Sheevaun :

No other questions. Ed, can I, can I, can I share something that's showing up? Yeah. I think this would help. Cause people ask me about readers all the time and I will say this in the beginning when I first started doing this, I was like, oh yeah, here we go. And, but the cool thing about that and the way I see everything that you all bring to the table is you get to bring something that nobody else can bring. You get this cool, cool opportunity that they're gonna listen in a new way that they're not gonna listen to somebody else because you have something physical outside of you. I don't use cards, I use my head and my hands <laugh> and for all of this energy stuff. And so I think all the ladies and all the, all the people who are on here, I think if you can work on your solar plexus, like your solar plexus is going to be your magical spot at making you that much more of a magical reader.

Because when people say, oh, what do you think about? I'm like, make sure their solar plexus is really good. And I say this all the time and why do I say that? Because the solar plexus is the center of our body. Yes, it's, and many other things, but it's the, it's the container of all the poopy stuff or the things that you can emit for. And if you can clean up your solar plexus before you get out into the world and do your magical work people will hear you in a completely new, yummy, beautiful way. And I always want people to hear readers in a beautiful new, yummy way because y'all are some of the first line of defense for people taking action on things they would hardly ever want to take action on. Just my personal opinion <laugh>.

Biddy:

Yeah. And, and it's interesting just hearing you say first line of defense cuz I think, you know, I think you've actually really nailed it. This is often a very like, early entry point to people being ready, spiritual work and, and the transformation and so on. Yeah, totally.

Sheevaun:

Yeah. So I really honor where you're at and where you're going and what you're doing because, because you are doing something that is going to help somebody open up and blossom that somebody else just can't do western medicine can't do it, you know, a a therapist can't do it cuz they're stuck in their ways. You're just going to, you can give them new bright light and shiny stuff. So yeah, I don't know. I hope that helped <laugh>.

Biddy:

Yeah. Beautiful. Awesome. As Kari, you've got your hand raised. Do you wanna ask a question?

Kari

I do, yes. So mentioning the solar plexus, how as readers can we know if our solar plexus is good?

Sheevaun:

Hmm. Well I always say use our spidey senses, so if you are kind of hunched over, you're gonna find that your sous is thick. These are just physical signals, signals. If you're good at scanning and sensing energy, if it's sticking real far out, you know, it's sticking far out. So if you're agitated, you're angry, you're frustrated, you're you are in that negative worry that's when your solo plexus is going to be sticking out and that's why I gave you that thing of the white paper. So you can actually neutralize some of that. It's not gonna be the same as a, as an energy cleanse, but you're gonna actually gonna be able to neutralize it. I think in the book we've got some tools that you can use to cut cords and do some, do some basic things in order to get yourself sorted out. But if you, oh, there's a cool thing. You're gonna be mad at me, all of y'all, so I'm sorry. If you can do 10 jumping jacks, this will totally, totally shift your energetic field. If you can do that, your reading and your interaction with that person is going to be that much better.

Kari:

Oh, that's really neat.

Sheevaun:

Yeah.

Michelle:

<Laugh>. Yeah, because I mean, we do usually do a little ritual before we do our readings, you know, a couple of deep breaths, maybe we light our candle, we have our crystals, and so we get into that zen place, right. We get ready for the reading. Yeah. but I never, it never even occurred to me to sort of think about the solar plexus before a reading. So this is something new and, and now I will think about it, yeah. Before the reading happens. So thank you. Thank you so much. You're welcome.

Sheevaun:

You're welcome.

Biddy:

Beautiful. Well, I'm just aware of our time together and I feel like we're just closing out today's session. So a couple of things I would love for our members to just share what's that one thing that you've taken away from today? What's something that you've heard today that you think like it's either, you know, like our hanged man, it's like a complete perspective shifter, or maybe it's something specific, a, a technique or something that you're going to do differently in your practice. So share that into the chat. And in the meantime, Sheevaun, I would love for you to share a little bit more about how folks can find you. Sure. Yeah, go for it.

Sheevaun:

Sure. Cool. So you can go to Sheevaun.com, s h e e v a u n m o r i n.com, and then on there at the bottom, it actually gets you to the school. It's easier than just giving you a bunch of different websites. <Laugh>, it gets you to the school about energy and it's, that's called Energy Mastery. And so if you go there, what you'll find is all kinds of ideas and thoughts to be like the hangman apparently regularly <laugh> to really turn things around in the way you've been viewing energy, time, money, health, et cetera. And if you want to reach out to me, I mean, reach out to me an author Sheevaun.com. I read everything that comes in. So yeah,

Biddy:

Fantastic. And don't forget to get a copy of the five Essential Energy, so remember that's number five, essential energies.com. And I think that's gonna be great in terms of your own personal energy practice and energetic alignment plus how you can connect with your clients on a deeper level as well. So really appreciate you sharing that. I just wanna share some of the beautiful takeaways that have come through. Let me see. There's a lot <laugh>, so I'll just pick out a few here. So Carrie's saying like, clean your own bubble regularly. That's really landed, Michelle. Belin b, shift my energy before a reading. Doing something for yourself each day is not optional. It's essential how to light up my energy to be aware of it and to direct it. Consider energy work as playtime. Yeah, like that one.

Biddy:

Richard. Thank you. Karen says, what if questions and clearing my bubble for Janice, Denise, it's been about the tone of my words has a huge impact on how my energy is received. A hundred percent. Dustin loves putting your hand on your heart and dancing around it a little. And definitely the solar plexus tip that's landed for a number of folks. Letting them release their poop and then using a bright, shiny energy to help them play with new possibilities. Hopefully fun <laugh>. Oh, hopefully <laugh>. I love it. And there's many, many more coming through as well. So I think that's a real testament Sheevaun to the value that you've shared today. I, my sense is, and this has really landed for our community members and our listeners, and I deeply, deeply appreciate you sharing your energy today and your presence. And yeah, I just know that this has helped so many people. So thank you very, very much.

Sheevaun:

Thank you. Thank you. I'm so grateful to be here. I just want everybody to thrive. <Laugh>.

Biddy:

Yeah. Beautiful. So yeah, I'm seeing lots of thank yous and, and blessings. So enjoy the rest of your writing retreat in Mexico. Cannot wait to see what evolves out of that. And to our community. Thank you also very much for being here. We're here on the live session, we watching the replay. It's so good to have your energy here. And I really do hope and see where you can really integrate a lot of what Sheevaun shared today into your own practice to continue evolving and elevating the way that you are reading, reading Tarot. So lots and lots of good vibes. Thank you all. Oh, and actually Hillary may, do you just wanna wrap us up with a little bit of admin about what's next, please?

Michelle:

Yeah, absolutely. So I will make sure to have the replay available for everyone within the next 48 hours. It will also become a tarot class within the case write and easy for everyone to access and taken whenever they wish as well. So just make sure I'm copying the link again for the lovely giveaway that Sheevaun has provided for us, so that you can download that and enjoy it as well. That's all for me.

Biddy:

All right, thank you all. Appreciate you all, and I will see you all very, very soon. All right, bye for now. Bye.